For the first time since 1973

[Manchy]

The military has managed to meet all its recruiting goals. Nothing like a good old fashioned recession to give people no options. Next comes debtor prisons and modern day serfdom. Must feed the beast called globalism.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE59C5O320091013


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Aided by a bleak job market, the U.S. military met all of its recruitment goals in the past year for the first time since it became an all-volunteer force in 1973, the Pentagon said on Tuesday.

Military services have been stretched thin by conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq, giving added weight to recruitment efforts as President Barack Obama considers sending another 40,000 U.S. troops to Afghanistan next year.

The United States already has 67,000 troops in Afghanistan and about 119,000 in Iraq.

Pentagon officials said recruitment gains were fueled by the deepest U.S. recession since the Great Depression and an unemployment rate nearing 10 percent.

"For the first time since the advent of the all-volunteer force, all of the military components, active and reserve, met their number as well as their quality goals," said Bill Carr, deputy undersecretary of defense for military personnel policy.

[C]

Ship them overseas and let the afgans do a bit of weeding.

[starscream]

Quality goals? Convicted felons, drug addicts, and high school dropouts pass quality goals?

I take it they don't have a mensa requirement :classy:

[Gary Sapoznik (superstar)]

I am considering joining the Army. I think I'd look good in a fox hole.

[Chook]

You're in the Army now!
You're not behind a plow!
You're guarding this room empty room 500 miles from the front!
and getting PTSD!
You're in the Army now!

[Max Power]

I also heard they've already met about 40% of next year's goal.

Do you think this is a sign of increased patriotism? Or a sign that people are more desperate?

[Gary Sapoznik (superstar)]

It's a sign we'll soon be invading Canada, just like Alan Alda wanted before he died.

[Manchy]

I also heard they've already met about 40% of next year's goal.

Do you think this is a sign of increased patriotism? Or a sign that people are more desperate?

Guessing desperation given that the unemployment rate of the 16-24 age group is around 18%.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/12/business/econwatch/entry5378769.shtml

[Bruce]

It's a sign we'll soon be invading Canada, just like Alan Alda wanted before he died.

Is he dead, bugger!

[Manchy]

Wouldn't it be cheaper just to pay the Afghans to be nice people and watch MTV? Or give me the million dollars that it costs to send one of our soldiers to Afghanistan?



The United States spends about $3.6 billion a month in Afghanistan, according to data provided by the Congressional Research Service.

The average cost per month is calculated at an average 51,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, but that number likely will go higher with the 68,000 troops the Obama administration already is planning on having in that country, and could double if President Barack Obama backs a reported request from Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the commander in Afghanistan, to send as many as 40,000 more troops to the country.

The cost of sending one U.S. soldier in Afghanistan for one year is $1 million versus an estimated $12,000 for an Afghani soldier, according to Steve Daggett, a specialist with the Congressional Research Service. Those numbers fall within the calculations that the Obama administration has been using. The Obama administration is calculating $1 billion per 1,000 troops deployed to Afghanistan.

[soyl]

They have to call in the police to keep the mobs in order whenever we have an "army recruitment camp".

There are no dearth of candidates wishing to join, and only the best, physically fit, alert, capable, people get into our army.

[Big Al]

They have to call in the police to keep the mobs in order whenever we have an "army recruitment camp".

There are no dearth of candidates wishing to join, and only the best, physically fit, alert, capable, people get into our army.


Bloody ell!! You mean BOTH of them got in?

[soyl]

Funny.

[Chook]

I bet you can find corresponding data to show the parents of these recruits had not saved up for college.

[Manchy]

Not really working Chook. But since most of your trolls are directed at women or fags instead of master trolls, you probably don't understand that. I can see I must educate you as well as SS.

[Chook]

Who said I was trolling? Those people joining the military are most likely doing it because their parents can't afford to keep their homes, let alone pay for college. Wash the sand out of your vagina, please! :dramaqueen:

[Manchy]

Still not working Chook. I can see your trolling skills are heavily influenced by SS. I will complete your training. In time you will troll with the elite of trolls of which I am one of the best.

[C]

So you've joined up to troll this site?

[Manchy]

Trolling you chuck was more easy then I ever imagined.

[C]

I am basking in the attention you are showering on me, Manchy dear.

[Manchy]

You are in for a considerable amount.

[C]

You are in for a considerable amount.

:|

[Chook]

Suppose that a young couple has just had their first baby and they wish to ensure that enough money will be available to pay for their child's college education. Currently, college tuition, books, fees, and other costs, average $12,500 per year. On average, tuition and other costs have historically increased at a rate of 4% per year. Assuming that costs continue to increase an average of 4% per year, tuition and other costs for one year for this student in 18 years when she enters college will be closest to:

A) $12,500

B) $21,500

C) $320,568

D) $25,323


Assuming that college costs continue to increase an average of 4% per year and that all her college savings are invested in an account paying 7% interest, then the amount of money she will need to have available at age 18 to pay for all four years of her undergraduate education is closest to:

A) $97,110

B) $107,532

C) $101,291

D) $50,000

[Manchy]

Obvious trolls are not effective. The slow burn has better results.

[Chook]

Still no answer? Guess we wait another 18 years! :haha:

[Manchy]

I would say to troll me will take you 18 years at the rate you are executing it.

You guys simply have not a clue what you are doing.

[Chook]

Who said I'm trolling? How is your daughter going to school? Is she going to community college first, while waiting tables, so she can then transfer her AA to a bigger school? Once she gets there, she may need to dance on tables to afford tuition, but it'll be worth it in the end, because she can be some high priced business woman like Cameron Diaz in that one movie with the two brothers.

[starscream]

Manchy can't defend not paying for his daughter's education so he responds to Chook's posts by calling him a troll. Poor logic typical from the mouth of a shoddy provider and man-child. :pipe: Who needs to save for the future though? The world can end any day now.

[Chook]

I hope the world goes bankrupt, then I won't have to pay anything!

[Manchy]

Manchy can't defend not paying for his daughter's education so he responds to Chook's posts by calling him a troll. Poor logic typical from the mouth of a shoddy provider and man-child. :pipe: Who needs to save for the future though? The world can end any day now.


Actually here is the real deal on this. My daughter earned 9 semester hrs of college dual credit due to her honor's English course work. In between her junior and senior year in high school, she took 9 hrs of general university requirements at a community college. She picked up an additional 9 hrs after graduating from high school in May. She is currently enrolled this fall at a community college taking a full load of 15 hrs taking more of the general studies university requirements courses.

So after this semester, 8 months after graduating from high school, she will be a college sophomore with 42 semester hours. Community college is cheap and seems a rather good way to accumulate the mandatory university general studies. From actually evaluating resumes from applicants in my field and talking to civil engineers in my company, what really matters to them, when they hire, is work experience and to some extent the university that they graduate from.

Now we come back to where the military came into play. I never said I couldn't pay the university costs. I simply don't want to. Kids learn a great deal by paying for part of their way through school. Not a book education but practical experience of dealing with employers and scheduling time.

She can of course work part-time while she is at university. The military option puts the pain up front and you work a couple of days a month and two weeks in the summer-time. It was and still is her choice of whether to go that route.

[Chook]

Who said I'm trolling? How is your daughter going to school? Is she going to community college first, while waiting tables, so she can then transfer her AA to a bigger school? Once she gets there, she may need to dance on tables to afford tuition, but it'll be worth it in the end, because she can be some high priced business woman like Cameron Diaz in that one movie with the two brothers.

Chook is a more subtle and "polite" than Kevin. Chook is often spot on with his assumptions.

:pipe:

[Manchy]

Chook is a more subtle and "polite" than Kevin. Chook is often spot on with his assumptions.

:pipe:

Quoting yourself is sort of desperate.

[Chook]

I never said that - Max did. Good thing you're not homeschooling your kid!

[Manchy]

I never said that - Max did. Good thing you're not homeschooling your kid!

Not to worry. All of the important aspects of life she has learned from me. Who cares about how far the sun is from earth really?

[starscream]

Now we come back to where the military came into play. I never said I couldn't pay the university costs. I simply don't want to.


'However, in order not to have large student loans or daddy having to give up his beer'

Yeah you said you could pay for her college through loans or through a lifestyle change.

Paying for your daughter's college should be a long term plan through a 529 IRA or other savings plan. Not asking for financial advice during her senior year of high school and suggesting military for your daughter since its less painful for you. You would have had more time to make money over the years and provide an education for your daughter if you didn't waste 6 years of labor making puny military bux.


Kids learn a great deal by paying for part of their way through school. Not a book education but practical experience of dealing with employers and scheduling time.


She will learn to be the group hole at military.


She can of course work part-time while she is at university. The military option puts the pain up front and you work a couple of days a month and two weeks in the summer-time. It was and still is her choice of whether to go that route.

An education should be provided by the parent. I do not condone a kid wasting time working at a $6/hr part time job and getting a poor night's sleep when the kid should be using free time studying, doing homework, and getting a good's night's sleep so they are alert and prepared during $1000/credit hr lecture.

[Manchy]

An education should be provided by the parent.

Where do you find that in the handbook of parenting?

[starscream]

12:41] starscream606: manchy says his daughter will appreciate college more if she pays for it. also, he wont have to take out student loans.
[12:44] chook: you mean he'll appreciate it more if she pays for it?
[12:44] chook: i think any kid deserves to be pissed at their parents for not paying for college
[12:44] chook: since they shovel it down your throat since day 1, the least they can do is step up to the plate and provide!
[12:45] starscream606: i guess marshmallow kids need extra motivation. excellence is its own reward for SS regarding his schooling. i always got Bs or As straight through.
[12:45] tanizaki: ditto here

[Manchy]

Whenever I feel that I'm not the center of attention, I'll post some more about this.

[starscream]

12:47] chook: he should've made his daughter work her way through the last 12 years of school too
[12:47] chook: like the old black plague days
[12:47] starscream606: marry off the weak females so they arent your problem anymore
12:51] tanizaki: i am glad my parents saved and did not wait until my HS senior year to think about college money
12:51] starscream606: yay
[12:54] tanizaki: manchy wants to spend his money on swords instead of his daughter's education, I guess. He would be a good friend for Dellis

[12:55] starscream606: manchy said he'd ahve to stop drinking beer if he paid for her college
[12:56] starscream606: not swords, but equally as silly

[Chook]

Plus, if Manchy doesn't pay for his daughter's education, she won't have enough free time to get gang banged every weekend at all the frat parties!

[Manchy]

Plus, if Manchy doesn't pay for his daughter's education, she won't have enough free time to get gang banged every weekend at all the frat parties!

Now you are getting the idea. I'll make a good parent out of you yet.

[Flook]

She will learn to be the group hole at military.

http://www.bdsmmoviereview.com/movie0004/GeneralsDaughter-LeslieStefanson-16_small.jpg

[Manchy]

That movie looks familiar but I can't place it.

[Chook]

That's because you were never a general!

[Flook]

That movie looks familiar but I can't place it.

Your daughter's soon-to-be video diary to you. Love ya, Dad!

http://www.bdsmmoviereview.com/movie0004/GeneralsDaughter-LeslieStefanson-08_small.jpg

Standing guard over PFC Manchy-ette.

[Chook]

That chick was dating the dude from Boston Legal. Nice pull! :classy:

[Manchy]

That's because you were never a general!

A clue. Thanks

The General's Daughter is a 1999 film starring John Travolta. The plot concerns the mysterious death of the daughter of a prominent general. The movie is based on the novel by the same name written in 1992 by Nelson DeMille, and was directed by Simon West. The film was a box office success grossing $22 million in its opening weekend and $102 million in its total domestic run.[1]

Topics of interest include the integrity of junior officers in bringing justice against senior ones at great odds and at personal peril. There is also interesting background material regarding the militia movement, "Freedom Fighters", and the prospect of military use of urban and psychological warfare tactics.

The plot of the movie is significantly different from that of the novel although the outcome is the same. For instance, in the novel Brenner never meets Elizabeth Campbell. The first time he sees her is at the murder scene.